Brompton P Line Urban - Midnight Black Metallic - Mid vs Surly Big Dummy

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Brompton P Line Urban - Midnight Black Metallic - Mid
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Technical Specifications
Drivetrain Brompton 4 speed drivetrain, 163% range --
Frame Main Frame: Precision drawn heat-treated steel tubing with hand brazing and selected auto-brazed joints
Rear Frame: Superlight Advance rear frame made from Titanium with a replaceable hanger, redesigned suspension block and new 54mm roller wheels
Surly Big Dummy, Surly 4130 Chromoly steel. Main triangle double-butted. TIG-welded cargo specific engineered for stiffness.
Stem -- 4 Bolt 31.8mm clamp
Handle Bar -- Premetec
Fork Superlight Titanium fork with a threaded headset Surly Troll 420mm axle-to-crown x 43mm offset, tapered and butted straight blade, 4130 Chromoly. 51mm I.S. disc mount
Seatpost Brompton Standard Chromoly steel tube – gloss black. Suitable for maximum inside leg 33″/83cm 2 -Bolt. 27.2mm
Clamp: Surly Stainless, 30mm Surly stainless, included
Grip Superlight lock-on grips with precision ground lightweight foam adhered to ultrathin engineered core weighing just 42g per pair Velo Non-Locking
Crankset -- TruVativ 48/36/26
Pedals Brompton Folding left hand and non-folding right-hand pedals --
Chain Hollow pin Superlight Advance Chain KMC X10
Shifters Brompton 4 speed trigger shifter X5 Trigger
Gear 4-speed gear system --
Saddle Fizik Aliante R7 – a comfortable saddle with lightweight performance from its Composite Carbon Nylon shell WTB Volt Sport
Headset Brompton Superlight headset Cane Creek 40
Derailleur Front -- Shimano Deore, FD-T611-3
Derailleur Rear Patent-pending direct mount 4 speed derailleur SRAM GX Type 2.1
Hub Front -- Shimano Deore M525, 36h, QR
Hub Rear -- Shimano Deore M525, 36h, QR
Chainrings 6061 forged aluminium crank with 50T chainring and integrated chainguard --
Sprocket 11-13-15-18 Tooth --
Bottom Bracket Square taper bottom bracket SRAM
Tyres
Front Schwalbe ONE Black Tyre Schwalbe Big Apple 26" x 60mm
Rear Schwalbe ONE Black Tyre Schwalbe Big Apple 26" x 60mm
Wheel / RIM Front Wheel: Superlight front wheel – Lightweight rim, double-butted spokes and aluminium hub body with sealed bearings and hex key axle
Rear Wheel: Superlight 4 speed rear wheel – Lightweight rim, double-butted spokes and aluminium hub body with sealed bearings, newly developed 4 speed freehub body and hex key axle
Rims: Alex Adventurer
Brakes
Front Dual Pivot Calipers Avid BB7
Rear Dual Pivot Calipers Avid BB7
Brake Lever -- Avid FR-5
Suspension
Front -- --
Rear -- --
Colors Available
Colors Midnight Black Metallic Dark Side of the Maroon
Blacktacular


Physical Specs
Length -- --
Weight 10.2 kg --
Overview
Features -- Kickstand plate.
Dedicated Rohloff cable routing and mount for OEM 2 axle plate.
Human cargo compliant with the use of Dummy Rail Collars.
Vertical, 135mm spaced dropouts with fender eyelets; Rohloff compliant.
Additional Details Folded Size: 645mm (H) x 585mm (W) x 270mm (D) (25.3” x 23” x 10.6”)
Chain tensioner: Advance chain tensioner with replaceable hanger mounting
Front carrier: Front carrier block adaptor for all types of Brompton luggage (non-electric)
Mudguards: New curved profile with updated mudguard flaps
Size:
Small (16) - Medium (18) - Large (20) - XLarge ( 22)
Rotors: SRAM Centerline 180/180mm
Cog or cogset: Microshift CS-H100 10 speed, 11-36t

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